Shlonglor's Orc Opinions
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Name: Alan Sagan
Date: Thursday, May 2, 12:43:38 a.m. (Eastern)
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: Bloodlust, Runes and Haste. I can get new buildings faster
with haste, take out towers and buildings faster with Bloodlust,
and get peasants, mages, and the like with runes. Also the
upgrades. I really never have the gold for the human upgrades,
cause I always spend it on troops first.
Name: Lauren
Date: Thursday, May 2, 1:04:26 a.m. (Eastern)
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: Generally, humans just can't compete with bloodlust.
Sure, go ahead and try to heal your troops. With
bloodlust, all I have to say is: what troops?
Mages can do some damage, but I have never met a player
who could slow an entire force well. Plus, getting
ogres with bloodlust will be cheaper than trying
to polymorph them. I Don't get how people expect to save
themselves by blizzarding a moving attack force, in
their town. I have had some occasions where this worked
much to my advantage ;)
Name: Jonny*
Date: Thursday, May 2, 7:58:48 a.m. (Eastern)
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: I think we all know "specifically" why orcs are better,
but did you ever bothter to look at the biger picture?
Why is it that alot of us started out playing humans,
and then switched to orcs? Why is it that "most" of the
good players on kali play orcs? You see, you have to be
able to recognize these trends. They do not occur for no
reason :) *
Name: Antemortem
Date: Thursday, May 2, 2:53:59 p.m. (Eastern)
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: Orcs are better over all. Yet, there are many things to watch
out for. Gotcha!, shaf, ricardo or anyone that is good with there
spelld. I watched a game at a friends where shaf took out many
of my friends ogres using a coombination of slow and blizzard.
I recomend when picking orcs never let them get mages... Cause
if they do and they know how to use them you are screwed. Other
than that a group hasted death knights (i.e. 4) can take out a
castle usually w/o getting killed untill the spell is done. This
is one of the most effective wepons in the game.
--Antemortem
Name: Brad Bachman
Date: Thursday, May 2, 3:15:26 p.m. (Eastern)
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: Bloodlust. Healing dosen't do shit when your already dead.
Name: Sideswipe
Date: Thursday, May 2, 7:38:19 p.m. (Eastern)
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: It should be pretty obvious that Mages are a hell of a lot better than Death Knights. However, All you need is good recon. Scout your enemy regularly whenever it comes close to the Mage stage. Once he gets his Mage Tower up, you should already have your Ogres. Bloodlust them and blitz the town, making sure to kill the towers and any Mages which he got out. Then hit the peons. No mages, no invisible, polymorph or blizzards. Its simple as that. Bloodlust Ogres can take out the buildings so damn quick too. Also another point to make is that these "awesome human spells" take 200 mana off. Try regaining that much when you really need it. Un less he has a shitload of Mages, which might happen sometimes, your Ogres can have their way. Even if they do get some spells off, it will be a while till they can do it again. In the long run, if the game gets hot and heavy, Orcs have the definite advantage. There are always ways to take out the Mages. Bloodlusted Ogres is a different story.
Name: Jff~~
Date: Thursday, May 2, 8:16:21 p.m. (Eastern)
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: Shlong, after many days and nights of thought on this
important question I've come to the conclusion that the
reason Orcs are better is: BLOODLUST :)
Name: Jeff Peoples (Habeb)
Date: Friday, May 3, 6:21:03 p.m. (Eastern)
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: The reason I like orcs is because of the ogres magic,
not the DK's, All that the Dk's have is Death and decay.
Ogres have bloodlust and runes. There are a lot of things
you can do with runes you can easily lure your oppenent into
them by makeing one troll. And bloodlust is a good spell if
you can use it fast, cause all humans have to do is blizzard
you once you start to use it, and all your guys will charge
them and you have no controll and any one good would know
what to do then. Also most people just plain out suck with
humans and dont know how to protect against bloodlust.
"I like humans cause of the cool sounds" hehe.
Now I feel dumb...Did that sound dumb?shlong :)
Name: Mantis
Date: Friday, May 3, 11:14:46 p.m. (Eastern)
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: It comes down to this. Orcs are superior on offensive.
Humans are better on defense. Now, I ask you, what wins
games? Last time I checked it was offense. Steve seems to
think defense can win games, Shlonglor reasons that
defense has its place, but the key is offensive. We should
know any time what strategy won out.
Name: James Saunders (Kwll)
Date: Saturday, May 4, 5:10:04 a.m. (Eastern)
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: Bloodlust RULES, plus the Orc buildings are so grim...the human
buildings are so bright and cheerful (I hate bright and
cheerful...example:Barney). I also love the spell whirlwind...
it is soooo useful. Even if it does no damage, your enemy
won't be watching what he's doing and keeping an eye on where
the whirlwind will end up.
Name: N'klas
Date: Saturday, May 4, 10:16:01 a.m. (Eastern)
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: Orcs are they best!!! They have cool spells like Whirlwind
and Raise the Dead!!! :) (sarcasm) Bloodlust rules the game
While the puny humans are busy healing the orcs beat them
down!! Runes, Death Coil, Bloodlust, Haste, and Death and
Decay are just too cool. Plus orcs have those neato sound
fx.!!! Zug Zug!! Davoo!! You can laugh and beat your
opponent to a pulp at the same time.
Name: Da Wizard of tha' DPB
Date: Saturday, May 4, 2:15:39 p.m. (Eastern)
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: Its easy to say "Mages, invisibility, me so sneaky, haha" but when you look at the FACTS orcs have the definite advantage. Unless the orc player is a moron, he should have his ogres out and running by the time Mages would even become a factor. This coupled with good recon means bye bye Mage tower. That's all you have to do. Make sure that they don't get Mages. That's why you need good recon. Another thing is that while Mages are trying to rebuild mana, they are very vulnerable, even to peons. If a mage blizzards your peons, its not the end of the world either. Simply make some more peons. It will take time, but it's not like the game is automatically lost. I guess the main thing is to make sure to take out the Mage towers and mages before they get you. Have a flying machine over their base to keep an eye on what they are building. And what the hell is this stuff about "humans have better logic and strategy"? The only logic is the guy behing the computer and if he is some moron, I don't think being humans is gonna help. Yes, humans have their good points, but they are counterable. The biggest reason of all is that Shlonglor is an orc player! What does that tell you?
Name: Zarathustra
Date: Saturday, May 4, 7:45:19 p.m. (Eastern)
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: Though the two sides are even, the orcs require fewer
resources to come close to thier maximum combat potential.
An orcish leader need not even develop death-knight
technology to crush his foe. The humans only
have a chance to exploit their superior spell combinations
when the orcish opponent lets them develop the resource
base to do so. An strategically aware orc will realize the
neccesity to keep the opponent off balance, beat the human
to the sea and to the stronghold/castle upgrade, and finally to
a bloody pulp with an elite and relativly cheap cadre of
bloodlusted ogres.
Name: Enrique
Date: Monday, May 6, 9:37:19 a.m. (Eastern)
Email:
redc2@cam.ac.uk
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: The races are more or less equal, except:
1) Orc upgrade prices are more convenient, 1500g+300w is much easier to afford than 2400g at the start of a game.
2) Ogre-Magi are MUCH better than Paladins because of bloodlust and runes.
3) Mages are MUCH better than death knights because of slow, invisibility, and polymorph.
The other thing is that to get the best out of humans you HAVE to be very good with mages, you have to use all the spells just so...orcs are much easier to use to devastating effect.
As orcs, you can win a game without deathknights. As Humans, if you don't use mages well, you're dead.
Plus orange deathknights look really cute ;)
Name: Azure
Date: Monday, May 6, 4:38:50 p.m. (Eastern)
Email:
dventuri@mit.edu
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: Orcs are far better in longer games because bloodlust is
so powerful. Humans are only better on games very short on
lumber, or some times on sea were invisibilty can really be useful.
Name: Richard
Date: Monday, May 6, 10:33:08 p.m. (Eastern)
Email:
trKirak@aol.com
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: One Word. Whirlwind. Just Seeeing if you were paying
attention. Actually The Orcs are the best because they
Have the better spells, besides whirlwind of course.
Name: Jeff Hann
Date: Tuesday, May 7, 2:48:45 a.m. (Eastern)
Email:
jhann@fs3.ballarat.edu.au
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: I believe orcs are better even though I play humans.
The reason being is that they are battle ready sooner.
Imagine this you get to castle and upgrade your ogres.
Ie make ONE altar of storms.
This means that when you get ogre magi you already have
a whole heap of them and their mana points start
increasing on all of them. Compare to humans need to build
more than one mage tower and units increase only after they
are formed You can pump out heaps more ogres as you don't
need to make any more new structures. Your typical human
needs to make not ONE but many mage towers if he is to get
a sufficient force of mages. Also he needs to have
sufficient forces to fight off any ogres which WILL come
in to attack.
Thus a human is more vulnerable to attack as he has to alter
the make up of his forces. However the big killer is resources.
Humans need way more before their superior magic can come
into play. Thus they need more peasants, more gold and as
they have more units ie many Knights and mages as opposed
to just ogres more farms. I say this as humans need more
troops to fend off the bloodlust advantage.
I would also like to say that orcs do not suffer from this
disadvantage as they are as strong as anything you send
against them until magic comes into play.
Name: Robert J. Freas (*Mage*)
Date: Tuesday, May 7, 1:07:24 p.m. (Eastern)
Email:
rfreas@ais.net
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: I would have to say bloodlust is incredibly powerful. It's
quite insane, actually. Orcs seem somewhat more offensive,
and therefore can shoot for an early win. If the game drags
on long enough, it evens out because of the magic factor.
However, on sea, I think humans have every bit of chance as
orcs do; perhaps more. I used to use humans, but I switched
soley 'cuz of bloodlust. It's quite an asset. :) Play on
people!
Name: Megatron
Date: Tuesday, May 7, 3:46:42 p.m. (Eastern)
Email:
willreed@montana.com
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: BLOODLUST
Name: Ben Roth (Zedd)
Date: Tuesday, May 7, 10:54:20 p.m. (Eastern)
Email:
proth@netins.net
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: Orcs are cooler for lots of reasons, among which are:
10: They look cooler
9: They sound cooler
8: They're mean (not like those soft wimpy humans)
7: Dragons are cool, Gryphons suck (Ah, look at the little
birdy!)
6: Runes
5: Haste
4: Ogres are cooler than little wussies on ponies
3: Death and Decay
2: Bloodlust
1: Shlonglor says so, and he's cool, and has a cool page,
so he's gotta be right :)
Name: Larry Liang (Vermeer)
Date: Thursday, May 9, 3:51:41 a.m. (Eastern)
Email:
lwl@umich.edu
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: Humans just suck. All human players suck. :)
It's Vermeer joking around or I would have deleted it :)
Shlonglor
Name: Mathais Murdock
Date: Saturday, May 11, 12:19:45 p.m. (Eastern)
Email:
kenpo@castle.net
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: The orcs remind me of David Hasselhof.
Name: Yuan-Juhn Chiao
Date: Tuesday, May 14, 10:35:57 p.m. (Eastern)
Email:
nanyuan@leland.stanford.edu
I think the Orcs are the best.
Reasons: 1. BLOODLUST--(playing offense is much easier) Besides, when
you heal, you have to look to see who needs to be healed
more--that takes too much time, and be then, your enemy has
already swarmed you. Bloodlust you can use indiscriminantly.
Secondly, a bloodlusted ANYTHING can do tons more damage
per person, i.e. a bloodlusted DeathKnight can destroy things
in seconds. Time is critical!
2. Upgrades of weapons--orcs have a slight edge in the beginning
their weapons cost less to upgrade in terms of gold needed. You
could easily have a level two grunt fighting in no time(you could
upgrade while your keep is going up!).
3. Personally, for me, the sight of 10 ogres is more intimidating
than an equal number of knights. Check out the noises they
make when you bloodlust them!
4. It's fun to play as orcs. Human characters always act so
seriously. Orcs, well, they say stupid/funny things. I love
the things ogres say :)